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July 18, 2007

Independent Women’s Forum

Filed under: Awesomeness, Obvious, Pirates and Ninjas, Politics — by nullp0inter @ 8:30 pm

Why do people take labels and symbols for themselves without really knowing what they represent? I’ve seen so many white middle-to upper class trophy-wives to be call themselves feminists, I don’t even find it non-sequitur anymore.

Why aren’t there more women like those in the IWF?

For example, my (ex) girlfriend who claims to be a Republican has the following beliefs:

1) Pro-choice
2) Not religious
3) Pro stem-cell research
4) Doesn’t like white guys
5) Thinks she’s a feminist

So let’s take a look at the Republican party platform:

1) Pro-life, no exceptions (even for mother’s health)
2) Literal belief in the bible, party leader speaks for God. God sent Hurricane Katrina to punish New Orleans. Pat Robertson speaks at the Republican National Convention.
3) See #1, even though they have little to do with each other. Vehemently against stem cell research.
4) LOL. If you’re a Republican and not an (angry) white male… you seriously have something wrong in your head. I mean besides the fact that they [secretly] support segregation, seccession, theocracy, racism, discrimination, etc. Maccaca slipped out of your mouth on accident, YEAH RIGHT!
5) Traditional family values and gender roles. What are you doing going to college and grad school for a Pharm. D. so you can do something with your life. You don’t even know how to cook, wtf?

It’s really depressing how propaganda controls the mob that is America. When I meet most women who claim to be feminists I’m either shocked at how ridiculous their positions or are how uninformed they are on what is third wave feminism.

I also hate the word equality. It’s a bunch of hogwash. What I am a proponent of is EQUAL OPPORTUNITY. That means that you are judged as an individual by your actions, beliefs, etc.

If a woman can with regular basic training can carry a rucksack and equipment that probably comprises 50-75% of her bodyweight for 10 miles at a trot and do it within 1 std deviation of the time the men did it, then let her serve in a fighting position in infantry.

Common sense needs to make a come back. Feminism has become like MADD, an organization which accomplished it’s purpose, but has grown so big and successful and proven to be a money-making machine that board members ousted the founder. It still lives producing all sorts of crapola propaganda at schools and promoting laws that hold parents responsible for their misconduct of their teenage offspring (i.e They went on vacation for a week and my son threw a party at their house and served Alcohol.  Now they’re going to jail.)

On that note, why isn’t Bush in jail?

3 Comments »

  1. There’s nothing sensical about putting girls in infantry positions and you, because you have a penis, already know exactly why they don’t belong there. You just haven’t given it enough thought, because it’s too easy to use equal opportunity to justify everything.

    There are three major reasons that women should not be on the front lines with guns:

    First, the majority of men will at least hesitate if not to flat out refuse to give orders that send 18 yearold girls into the line of fire. If you want to take the stock political position, you’d say that commanders who couldn’t do that are obviously sexist and therefore unfit to command. Pretty typical response, and sounds pretty good on paper to millions of people who have never been in a war and certainly have never been put and will never be put in that position to say. But I can tell you right now that I would be incapable of sending some guy’s daughter over a hill and into the line of fire and I think most people would characterize me as a hard ass. I’d have no problems sending some guy’s son, though.

    Second, even if such a command were given, the young men serving alongside these women would put themselves at tremendous and unnecessary risk, even against orders, to save girls who might be in peril. Sorry, it’s just how men are. “Women and children first” exists for a reason. But you should probably ignore a custom that has been around for centuries that is as instictual as it is inevitable because GI Jane wants to be infantry.

    Third, no war could ever successfully be waged because public opinion, which is already against war as we’ve seen in Iraq, would turn against any commander who was bringing home American daughters in body bags. Look at Cindy Sheehan. Her dipshit son was dumb enough to join the army and he got his ass killed. My stance: tough shit. He knew what he was geting into. I didn’t join the army because I don’t want to get killed. If I had a son I’d make it very clear to him that his decision was the wrong one. If he chose to ignore me, that’s his choice. If Cindy Sheehan’s daughter on the other hand was killed, I would have been camping at Crawford with her. I will not support any war in which girls are being deployed the front lines to get shot and killed. Call me sexist all day long, but you and I both know with 100% certainty that America, which barely tolerates deploying our sons who willingly signed themselves up to get blown up by a carbomb in a god forsaken desert on the other side of the world, would not tolerate girls dying in the same fashion, period.

    Comment by emach — July 19, 2007 @ 4:46 pm |Reply

  2. My comment on women serving on the front lines was supposed to sound absurd not serious.

    I still stand by what I say, equal opportunity.

    American women are still being sent home in body bags, it’s just played down by the military. Yeah, it’s only 84 or 2.15% of recognized casualties and it would probably be far greater if they were serving on the infantry in front lines.

    Warfare has changed a bit since the charge of the light brigade and Pickett’s charge, but you’re right, it would make the men take larger and unreasonable risk to have women there.

    The command issues you raised are a logistics issues, perhaps you’d have to setup all female units. I don’t know the answer, but I don’t think most women are aching for the opportunity to go to the front lines so it wouldn’t be this gigantic tide of female deaths. They currently represent 7% of service member in the land forces, but 2% of the deaths. Nowadays, not being in the front line is not always a protection.

    I think people should be allowed to do what they want. I oppose women serving on the front lines, because it puts other people in danger, not because they are women. You shouldn’t be told you can or can’t do something, because you are a women. You should have the right to try and fail/succeed.

    Maybe you will argue that Alberto Gonzales should be cutting grass, because you know he is a Mexcian and traditionally they seem to be pretty good at that.

    I like about half of what you say, you seem to have a strong sense of personal responsibility, but at the same time you seem to be very authoritarian in many respects. You can’t really be responsible for your actions, when everyone else is telling (read forcing) you what to do.

    Comment by nullp0inter — July 19, 2007 @ 7:05 pm |Reply

  3. I am a fascist. My ideal society is Nazi Germany minus the ethnic cleansing and the war of expansion.

    Comment by Evan — July 24, 2007 @ 6:19 pm |Reply


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