Social Robots

Having read The Game and read in between the lines the following conversation, between a college friend of mine and I, greatly amuses me.

(9:42:05 PM) DW: what ya up to?
(9:53:50 PM) Me: nm
(9:54:03 PM) DW: ive been talking to a girl on aim for 4hrs
(9:54:16 PM) Me: About what?
(9:54:33 PM) DW: i used Mysery’s false repore multi-threading technique
(9:54:39 PM) DW: and then it fell away about an hour ago
(9:54:46 PM) DW: and we just got into the convo
(9:55:27 PM) DW: well girls like a lot of mystical stuff I think.  You notice that?  So I talk about my yoga practice
(10:00:47 PM) Me: That’s actually a good idea
(10:03:47 PM) DW: ??
(10:04:04 PM) DW: i thnk i no this, but tell me more
(10:04:52 PM) DW: ive been using multi-threading DHV with story injection coupled with intrigue mechanisms
(10:22:40 PM) Me: and uh
(10:22:44 PM) Me: Yeah,
(10:22:46 PM) DW: ??
(10:22:53 PM) DW: what did yousay?
(10:23:10 PM) DW: or what did i say
(10:26:21 PM) Me: gimme a second
(10:26:34 PM) DW: well i just virtually tucked her into bed, so i think it went well
(10:26:57 PM) DW: she just told me she was falling asleep listening to music and i wished her sweet dreams and she wished back
(10:27:20 PM) DW: but shes not my oneitis, so its nice but it doesnt have a deep satisfaction to me
(10:39:11 PM) Me: Now wouldn’t it be funny, if she would have liked you anyway?
(10:39:37 PM) DW: ???

He’s bordering on becoming a social robot.  He’s starting to get the hang of confidence, but it still needs work.
The “aha!” moment for me came, when I realized I don’t give a shit and I just started doing whatever I wanted and understood to be right. 

I love how scientific the words sound. No wonder computer programmers and geeky types just gobble it.  Rather than talking about their multi-threaded routines they wrote to run on their quad-core rigs, they get to talk about the multi-threaded routines they wrote to run on women. 

Why cannot I achieve the detachment necessary to really level up my “game”?  After much self-analysis I reached the concluision that it was a side-effect of taking Minds and Machines and watching the Matrix movies.  Are you like the guy that betrayed the humans to the agents? I wonder how the “higher value” girls, would react if you described the routines and the effects they were supposed to have? Would they still be content to play along with the program?  At what point does it cross the line between giving them a good time and into manipulation? 

How many of those girls would take the blue pill?

The hard part?  Asking enough girls that question, to get a good idea, without alienating every single female friend I have.

Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici!

An Economic Assessment of Beauty

From Howard Lindzon’s blog: 

THIS APPEARED ON CRAIG’S LIST

What am I doing wrong?

Okay, I’m tired of beating around the bush. I’m a beautiful (spectacularly beautiful) 25 year old girl. I’m articulate and classy.
I’m not from New York . I’m looking to get married to a guy who makes at least half a million a year. I know how that sounds, but keep in mind that a million a year is middle class in New York City, so I don’t think I’m overreaching at all.

Are there any guys who make 500K or more on this board? Any wives? Could you send me some tips? I dated a business man who makes average around 200 – 250. But that’s where I seem to hit a roadblock. 250,000 won’t get me to central park west. I know a woman in my yoga class who was married to an investment banker and lives in Tribeca, and she’s not as pretty as I am, nor is she a great genius. So what is she doing right? How do I get to her level?

Here are my questions specifically:

- Where do you single rich men hang out? Give me specifics- bars, restaurants, gyms

-What are you looking for in a mate? Be honest guys, you won’t hurt my feelings

-Is there an age range I should be targeting (I’m 25)?

- Why are some of the women living lavish lifestyles on the upper east side so plain? I’ve seen really ‘plain jane’ boring types who have nothing to offer married to incredibly wealthy guys. I’ve seen drop dead gorgeous girls in singles bars in the east village. What’s the story there?

- Jobs I should look out for? Everyone knows – lawyer, investment banker, doctor. How much do those guys really make? And where do they hang out? Where do the hedge fund guys hang out?

- How you decide marriage vs. just a girlfriend? I am looking for MARRIAGE ONLY

Please hold your insults – I’m putting myself out there in an honest way. Most beautiful women are superficial; at least I’m being up front about it. I wouldn’t be searching for these kind of guys if I wasn’t able to match them – in looks, culture, sophistication, and keeping a nice home and hearth.

it’s NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
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THE ANSWER
Dear Pers-431649184:

I read your posting with great interest and have thought meaningfully about your dilemma. I offer the following analysis of your predicament.
Firstly, I’m not wasting your time, I qualify as a guy who fits your bill; that is I make more than $500K per year. That said here’s how I see it.

Your offer, from the prospective of a guy like me, is plain and simple a crappy business deal. Here’s why. Cutting through all the B.S., what you suggest is a simple trade: you bring your looks to the party and I bring my money. Fine, simple. But here’s the rub, your looks will fade and my money will likely continue into perpetuity…in fact, it is very likely that my income increases but it is an absolute certainty that you won’t be getting any more beautiful!

So, in economic terms you are a depreciating asset and I am an earning asset. Not only are you a depreciating asset, your depreciation accelerates! Let me explain, you’re 25 now and will likely stay pretty hot for the next 5 years, but less so each year. Then the fade begins in earnest. By 35 stick a fork in you!

So in Wall Street terms, we would call you a trading position, not a buy and hold…hence the rub…marriage. It doesn’t make good business sense to “buy you” (which is what you’re asking) so I’d rather lease. In case you think I’m being cruel, I would say the following. If my money were to go away, so would you, so when your beauty fades I need an out. It’s as simple as that. So a deal that makes sense is dating, not marriage.

Separately, I was taught early in my career about efficient markets. So, I wonder why a girl as “articulate, classy and spectacularly beautiful”
as you has been unable to find your sugar daddy. I find it hard to believe that if you are as gorgeous as you say you are that the $500K hasn’t found you, if not only for a tryout.

By the way, you could always find a way to make your own money and then we wouldn’t need to have this difficult conversation.

With all that said, I must say you’re going about it the right way.
Classic “pump and dump.”
I hope this is helpful, and if you want to enter into some sort of lease, let me know.

3 Weeks

Things were going well with the 6 ft tall blonde, until 2 weeks ago. 

Unfortunately, it turns out she didn’t like the overly cocky attitude I had adopted recently.  We had a fight and she was wrong.  She ended up apologizing, so I told her she should buy me dinner to make up.  She flipped out and told me we’re done.  I should have waited until December to cool off (wtf?) and so on.  Apparently, she doesn’t like overly cocky guys. She seemed pretty upset and serious about so I’d figure I’d try out the three week plan, where you just ignore them for three weeks.

She made it 4 days. 

Called.  No answer.  I don’t check my voicemail, so I don’t know if she left a message.

Text message a little later in the middle of the day.

LOL.

I really want to patch things up with her, because she’s an amazing girl except for the random bout of craziness. What should my next play be? Should I text her back or call her?  Just wait? 

God Among Men

Internet Connection: Free
T61p laptop: 2476
Watching a girl get owned by Style: Priceless

Of Mice and Men

So I was finally getting ahold of this whole find, meet, attract, close deal. Actually, fairly successful as well.

Of course, I killed a cow in my previous life and ate it.  So just as everything is looking up… I end up with a girl, I actually like.  6′0, blonde hair, blue eyes, graduated from college at 20.  WTF! Likes math, puzzles, and jaeger bombs.  She actually wanted to and is going to participate in the Microsoft puzzle hunt with me.  WTF! Seriously, there must be something wrong with this girl…

No one warned me about how it would be to make out when you’re sober.

So how do I achieve an emotional disconnect now?  My skills are not yet refined enough to keep this girl  for any period of time.  Thus, no matter what I do this is a lose-lose situation.  The only good thing that can come of this is I get laid again.

Routines, contact closing, escalation, and K-town

Tonight was a good night.  It was definitely worth the 60+ dollars I burned.

So far in bars, I’ve had a 100% success rate. I only do two, maybe three approaches, when I go out. Maybe, it’s just the Seattle area, but I’m having issues with girls escalating on me too fast. My social intelligence has also gone up 1000%, since I read The Game and Bang. I’ve even developed two original routines (age specific unfortunately) that seem to work pretty well.  I will share one. If any of you remember your elementary school days, there was this amazing game called Oregon Trail.  For some reason, girls respond very positively to this game.  I don’t know what it is about Oregon Trail, but I’ve yet to meet anyone that has negative memories of it.  Luckily, in Washington State talking about Walla Walla leads in perfectly (you can choose to go through Walla Walla instead of going down the Columbia river I believe). 

Tonight, I only opened two sets. It was a two set of one really hot tall girl and one really hot short girl.  I’d say the short girl was an 8 and the tall girl was a 10.  Tall girls are the only girls that can reach 10 in my book, because I have a strong bias towards girls 5′ 10″ or taller.  I chatted them up. I wasn’t getting much from them, because (a) the music was too loud and (b) they sat down during the conversation.  I used my parking lot line and somehow they opened up.  I don’t remember all the details, but I managed to get her number shortly thereafter.  I remember talking about snowboarding, Miami, skydiving, and dancing.  She said she had to go look for her friend (who had gone to the bathroom and had been there forever).  

At this point I moved onto another set. I was looking for a challenge, so I went for a 6 set with 2 girls and 4 guys.  I opened up one of the guys, by just going with a “hi, my name is ___. I’m new to the area.”  Perfect excuse to randomnly talk to people   Anyway, I used the standard “so how do you all know each other?” One of the girls was their with a boyfriend and the other girl was with her friend.  I ignored the girls for a bit and really took control of the conversation with the guys.  Eventually, the girlfriend started interrogating me, “where are you from?”, “why’d you move here?”, etc. I focused pretty much all my attention on her, until I delivered my Rugby routine, directed at all the guys.  The guy who was “friends” with the other girl was being completely silent and avoiding eye-contact with everybody.  He was exuding a lack of self-confidence so strongly it wasn’t even funny.  I used the “is he always like that neg” on him.  I don’t know why, but at the time I thought it was a good idea.  Of course he reacted by qualifying himself about being tired and it being late (it was only midnight).  The girl jumped in don’t worry about him, he’s not very social.  Then she started chatting me about something, which I can’t even recall.  Eventually I got her phone number.  Shortly, after that the short girl from the original two set comes by and recognizes me and starts talking to m.  About 30 seconds later, her friend comes over.  I’m really not interested in the short girl even though she’s pretty, so I introduce her to the guy who I used to open the second set.  I don’t if he realizes him I’m using him as a wing, but he doesn an excellent job keeping the girl’s attention. While I work on her friend, who escalates into some serious kino rather quickly.  I was actually completely caught off guard, by this sudden change. I think she may have seen me talking to other attractive girls, which raised my value in her head. 

I’m tired of typign out this story so I’ll just skip to the end.  She invited me to go skydiving with her and she agreed to come to my friend’s birthday party the next day.  I also had to deal with some random guy from Spain. He asked for permission to call her the next day. Shortly, thereafter she whispered in my ear “help me.” 

All in all, I’m starting to enjoy going out a little bit too much.  

Also, I got to explore some venues in downtown K-town.  Timed Out turned to out to be the bar where all the skanky and fat girls go to get hit on by a predominantly ethnic and jock crowd.  Central Club is where people go to get drunk for cheap. It’s a good place for a venue change, because it’s much less packed and has a more relaxed atmosphere and pool tables. Joe’s Tiki wetbar is where all the hot girls go.  There’s also an incredible amount of tall people in Kirkland.  I’m 6′ 2″ and I would say I was only in the 60th percentile.  It was strange.

Tall girl has high relationship potential.  I just have to make sure I don’t foo-bar it.  Must sleep now.

Weekend

I was sitting at a bar in a certain ultra-yuppie town in Washington.  This guy offers to buy a girl a drink, with quite possibly the lamest line I have ever heard.  She was the bartender who’d just gotten off duty, so he goes “you made me some good drinks, so let me buy you a drink”. 

First thing, I think is “he is going to get rejected. Offering to buy a girl a drink is a major sign of beta.” Next, thing I hear is the girl give him the lamest rejection ever.  “I’ve got to leave soon and I’m driving.  No thanks.” 

She left about an hour later. 

Immediately, after she said no I turned to the guy and say “you shouldn’t do that.  that’s not a good approach.”  This then led to a discussion where I explained to him why buying a girl a drink is not a good opener.  This led to a discussion on pick up tactics and him telling me how much ass he’s pulled by offering to buy girls a drink.  After, about 10 minutes of conversation, I was so convinced this guy was full of shit and compelete beta.  His arguments against me were “I’ve pulled more ass than you will in your entire life time in the last ten years.”  Then he proceeded to tell me that he was only there (in the extremely yuppy, where everything is dead by 1 AM bar) to look at girls.  He then proceeded to tell me how it spending money on a girl didn’t matter, because when you woke up next to that hot girl next morning you wouldn’t give a shit.

He had me convinced. He was a beta.  He started going on about how perfect this girls hair and tits were.  How beautiful she was. I seriously wanted to punch him by now and call bullshit on him (the girl was a 7 at best), but I got my revenge in an even better fashion

I got up walked over to the table with the girl and her friends and used an opinion opener. 

“I was having a discussion with the guy at the bar and he thinks offering to buy a girl a drink is an effective way of getting her number. I’d like to get your opinions on it, but I need to leave soon, because I’m supposed to meet my friends at the P( a bar/lounge across the street)”

I already knew what they were going to say before they even answered.

“No, but sometimes I’ll take the drink and pretend to listen.”

“So it won’t work?”

“No, we’ve been asked so many times it gets old.”

“So a guy needs to come up with a more creative way, of approaching right? Sort of like Nietzsche said to use your creativity to overcome nihilism” (This was a stretch, but this was improvised and the best way I could think of to transition to the strawberry & cube games, while slightly drunk from about 7 hours of drinking (Freemont Oktoberfest))

“Yeah, just coming up and saying hi would work.  As long as he has something interesting to say. Who is Nietzsche?” (Thank one of them asked, it made it easier to execute the next step in my head)

“He’s a german philosopher from the 1800s.  One of my psychology teachers in college introduced me to him. Speaking of that teacher he also introduced me to these tests to get a good read of a person’s personality in a few simple questions. Would you like to see? “  ( I look at her for the first time finally as I say it)

<Execute Strawberry Game>

Up to this point, I have been pretty much ignoring her. Again, I used the guy for inspiration.  I say “ahhhhh…. that make sense now.” 

“What does?”

 ”The fact that you wondered whose strawberries they were, show that you have a very independent personality and don’t like taking unnecessary risks. You think about what you do, before you do it and it  and don’t like feeling like you owe anybody anything.”  Gee, I wonder where I got those ideas from

“Wow! Exactly.”

Suddenly, all her friends want to play the game.  I’m in.  I have her fighting for my attention and won her friends over (thanks to her :-p ) 

At this point, I don’t remember what I’m supposed to do next, so I do something which in retrospect was very stupid. 

“I just moved here from VA, so I’m just starting to meet new people.  You all really seem interesting and I enjoyed talking to you all.  Do you mind if I get all your phone numbers?” 

I now have Amy, Caroline, Paulina, and Cara in my cell phone

I eject by saying I have to close my tab and go meet my friends, I’m already late.
As I really do close my tab, I walk back to where I was sitting and the guy is still there. He scoffs at me and says, “how’d it go?  Not to well, right?”

“Have you ever seen the movie, Good Will Hunting?” 

“Yes.  Why?”

“Do you remember the bar scene?”

“Yes. What’s your point?”

“I got her number. How do you like them apples?”

“Fuck you. I don’t give a shit. I just came here to look at girls and have fun.”

Note that at this bar, I bought 6 drinks and it cost $ 70 dollars.  An RBV ~ $10.
Thus the guy offering to buy a drink is pretty significant.  Especially, if it turns into more than one drink. 

I sign my receipt and leave.  Victory is sweet. I still wish I could have gotten into a fistfight with his lardy ass.

“To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of their women.”

“Yes, yes that is good!”
 

Rape

http://www.anandaanswers.com/pages/naaFalse.html

False rape allegations constitute 41% of the total forcible rape cases (109) reported during this period. These false allegations appear to serve three major functions for the complainants: providing an alibi, seeking revenge, and obtaining sympathy and attention.

[False rape allegations are reported in similar numbers at college campuses; approximately 50% of rape charges are admitted to be false by the accuser.]

This speaks for itself. 

Best Pickup Line Ever

http://www.xkcd.com

Credit, Bang, and The Game

I must give credit where it’s due and say that there is a lot of valuable information in those books that’s helped me on my dates. All the crap about openers, NLP, routines, and all sorts of other gimmicks is pretty much trash when dealing with the kind women, I’m looking for. The sections in both books on body language, confidence, and inner game are invaluable. Probably the most important line for me from the game was “in order to get a girl, you must be willing to lose her.” You cannot be worried about what the girl thinks of you and you have to be willing to walk away knowing you can find another girl just as good or better. That is an issue of power & confidence and shows through in your entire attitude and posture.

That is one thing, I have to agree with the authors of The Game and Bang. As a guy you must maintain the balance of power in your favor, while dating. If a girl picks up on neediness, desperation, or you caring more about her than yourself then you are putting yourself at her mercy. You will either lose their respect or they will squeeze you for every last bit. It basically comes down on whether you trust the girl to use that sort of power correctly and not abuse it. If you do perhaps you should be considering progressing the relationship further